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	<title>Comments on: Weak Measurement &#8211; follow up</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Harter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Harter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading through this post and the previous one, I can&#039;t really disagree with you, but I&#039;m still not sure what the solution is.  Can you help clear this up for me?

A current example for me is we have a project that is 3 months behind schedule, and the number of defects and fixes are quite numerous.  Our scope is to re-test about 50 defects, and quite a bit of regression testing.  

Based on what I know TODAY I&#039;m estimating that it will take about 5 weeks to complete this, but I plan on constant communication to let them know if I think that the timeline will slip, and/or what major questions about the system we won&#039;t have answered.

I&#039;ve read a lot of the time estimation articles, blogs, and RST slides from James Bach and Michael Bolton so this isn&#039;t the first time I&#039;ve been exposed to the idea of not estimating how long it will take to test, but as someone who is somebody&#039;s customer myself I would be appalled if I went anywhere for service and they couldn&#039;t give me any estimate of how long it would take to get the service I desire.  Is that the lesson here, though?  That we will provide better customer service if we don&#039;t provide an estimate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading through this post and the previous one, I can&#8217;t really disagree with you, but I&#8217;m still not sure what the solution is.  Can you help clear this up for me?</p>
<p>A current example for me is we have a project that is 3 months behind schedule, and the number of defects and fixes are quite numerous.  Our scope is to re-test about 50 defects, and quite a bit of regression testing.  </p>
<p>Based on what I know TODAY I&#8217;m estimating that it will take about 5 weeks to complete this, but I plan on constant communication to let them know if I think that the timeline will slip, and/or what major questions about the system we won&#8217;t have answered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of the time estimation articles, blogs, and RST slides from James Bach and Michael Bolton so this isn&#8217;t the first time I&#8217;ve been exposed to the idea of not estimating how long it will take to test, but as someone who is somebody&#8217;s customer myself I would be appalled if I went anywhere for service and they couldn&#8217;t give me any estimate of how long it would take to get the service I desire.  Is that the lesson here, though?  That we will provide better customer service if we don&#8217;t provide an estimate?</p>
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		<title>By: testyredhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>testyredhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, I&#039;m sorry for having to tell you this, but I AM a tester. You have misunderstood features down twice on your list. Recently bit by that one? :)

Does too much Rockband count on the list? I&#039;ve developed a habit since the holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, I&#8217;m sorry for having to tell you this, but I AM a tester. You have misunderstood features down twice on your list. Recently bit by that one? <img src='http://www.adamkwhite.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Does too much Rockband count on the list? I&#8217;ve developed a habit since the holidays.</p>
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